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Hey guys, I have a couple questions about 4x4 differences

If some of yall remember my truck Kilroy, I plan on converting to 4x4 when I redo it

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What my question is, are 4x4 frames different that 2wd frames ???
Such as, do they kick up higher in the front ???

And can I just put a 4x4 crossmember in it along with the front spring brackets ???

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from wat i understood the eaziest way is using a 4x4 frame theres someone doing a longhorn 2 wheel drive to 4 wheeldrive conversion on the big board might be worth to take a look
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/show ... ost3638430


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Using a 4wd frame is the easiest way.

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I would convert the 2wd frame its alot quicker and I think cheaper. just get the diy4x4 b52 kit a set of rear 52in springs and if you have coils in the rear flip the axle to the bottom of the control arms it gives u a 4in lift and sonverts the suspention for around 300 then all you need is the trans and transfer case , crosmeber for the trans, steering will depend on year of front axle pre 75 go cross over 76 or newer go standerd 4x4 steering.

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I would convert the 2wd frame its alot quicker and I think cheaper. just get the diy4x4 b52 kit a set of rear 52in springs and if you have coils in the rear flip the axle to the bottom of the control arms it gives u a 4in lift and sonverts the suspention for around 300 then all you need is the trans and transfer case , crosmeber for the trans, steering will depend on year of front axle pre 75 go cross over 76 or newer go standerd 4x4 steering.



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Swapping the body onto a 4wd frame is by far the simplest way.It`s a bolt on deal.The frames raise up about an inch more in the engine cradle area.It makes no difference,though.All sheetmetal is the same annd either converting a 2wd frame to 4wd or frame/body swap is unaffected.The 4wd cab mount cushions are different and same as 3/4t.You need all the 4wd cross members in the 2wd frame.Either way I`d want to start with a 4wd donor with all parts there.Unless that frame is shot,swapping the body is the way to go.It`s also the only way to have it "as factory" and you can end up with all 4wd numbers if you want.

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Yeah, I have pretty much decided to find a 4x4 to swap under it

That truck is prolly the only 67 I will ever try to make fairly original, so swapping to a 4x4 frame rather than converting is the way to go for me

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If I swaped to a 4x4 frame it would never get done to much work for me. Only way I would do a body swap would be if I was planing on doing a frame off to start with. Even then I think I would go with a 2wd frame and air bag the back end. I had planed on doing it with my 71 burb frame but some one else needed it more then me so I gave it away.

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Well a body swap is about the simplest thing I do at my shop lol

I already have the truck torn apart & its a long term project that Im not even ready to start on other than gathering parts lol

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your more motivated then me I hate heavy lifting. My pore 68 firebird is never going to get done it needs a full tare down and restore and I cant ake my self do it.

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i wouldnt do a project like that without a 2 post bridge or an adapted enginecrane on a flat floor


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Earl, just give me the bird.

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I'd take the bird to if its in your way and all lol, love the pontiacs.


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One of these days I need to post some pics of the bird for you guys. my dad keeps saying I need to put the Twin T motor in it and let him drive it. So it doesnt sit .

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Well Earl, I think you should give me the bird, after all I do have its cousin the 69 Camaro Z/28 :mrgreen:

But back to body swapping, I dont have to lift anything heavy really, as I have a chain hoist in my shop & a Case loader to pick stuff up :ron:

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I still need the engine out of that loader.

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i have seen a couple of clips on you tube of people putting car engines in those loaders up to caddy engines even i guess a small 4 cylinder truckdiesel would do fine


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I have considered that but just too much fab work.

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Woodridge wrote:
I have considered that but just too much fab work.


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somehow i have an image of one of those cats with a parachute wheelie bars zoomies a 8-71 huffer sticking trough the bonnet and a bumper sticker saying : yeah its got a hemi


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Thats cheating I have to use 4x4s and a hydroilic jack and lots of blocks to do a body swap.

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watahyahknow wrote:
somehow i have an image of one of those cats with a parachute wheelie bars zoomies a 8-71 huffer sticking trough the bonnet and a bumper sticker saying : yeah its got a hemi


Ever see that JCB backhoe dragster?It`s so cool I can`t stand it.Thanks for the image.A pumped up crawler would be awesome.Somehow I think slick tracks would not help traction.Maybe rubber tracks,tho`.

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How about a dozer with cleated tracks.

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how bout tracks with dragblocks on them and trow some sparks while making donuts

i indeed have seen the jcb youre talking about , i know one of the owners of the company actually has one thats roadlegal and drives it to work but thats one that looks more like a john deere tracktor
they now hold the new diesel record of 350.092mph , they use a dieselengine of there own design for there products and to prove it was as strong as they said it was they put some turbo's on it and dropped it in a streamliner (inside was still stock as far as i heared from them ) heres the link : http://www.jcbdieselmax.com/html/news_d ... table=news


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