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First off, let me explain the cheesy name. On every other message forum I'm on and in my email, my username is Slick68. I came up with that name because everyone always told me how slick my truck is/was.

Anyway, the 350 in my 68 is bad and needs replaced. I searched several options and finally found this LS1 from an 02 Camaro from board member, FunkyTechMonkey. It has 40,000 approx. miles on it and it has a Texas Speed MS3 cam installed. I'm afraid the cam will be too big for my purposes, so it will be changed to something a bit more tame. The MS3 cam requires a 3500-3800 stall converter, so I'll get something I can run with about a 2200 stall speed.

As of now, this will be bolted to my current TH350 trans with a 3.07 gear. I'm going to run a carb on it for simplicity. I plan to install the Edelbrock Performer RPM dual plane intake, MSD 6010 ignition control box, and a Holley 670 Street Avenger carb. I also plan to relocate the coil packs and mount the engine as rearward as possible. I'll more than likely run headers of some sort when I can find what I want for a "reasonable" price. Wow, LS headers are pricey!! But, by the time I get some exhaust manifolds, clean them up and have them coated, I'll be close to the same money.

I'm sure I'll explain more as this thread continues, so here's the pics I have as of now. Not much, but I'll add more as I have something more to show. :lol:

Unloading from the truck.
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Makeshift stand until I found some metric bolts to mount it to the engine stand.
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Finally on the stand.
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The heads had already been unbolted, so I took them to a shop where a buddy of mine works. He let me use the tools and parts washer machine. I disassembled them, cleaned everything, lapped the valves and reassembled them.

Nice and clean now!

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Time to get to the short block. I'll get it cleaned up and prepped for paint. I'll also start cleaning up the used external parts I'll be getting in.

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Picked these up on Saturday, as well. The kit came with clamshell style mounts, but all I may need is the plates, so I'm unsure if I want to use these or just use the plates as templates to have custom ones made.

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I've got an oil pan, front timing cover, rear cover, flexplate with adapter ring and bolts, an MSD 6010 controller, and coil packs bought from private sellers that should all start rolling in the next few days.

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Sweet ... you got me hooked now , cant wait to see more .

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Cool Matt- got anything left from the 350?

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DP, I have a sbc parts thread in the for sale section. I don't have much left.

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Got a few parts in.

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Hood is off and engine/trans. are ready to be pulled. Hopefully it will be out this weekend.

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Subscribed :cool:

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:flag: I don't see how you work in such a dirty, nasty, engine compartment. And all that oil and sludge buildup on the engine. You're a brave soul. :floored: :exit:

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lookin good

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Ron, it's a tough job, but somebody's gotta do it. :lol:

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OK, I got the old engine/trans out Friday evening. I was going to wait until Saturday morning, but the weather man said Friday would be somewhat nice(at least for Feburary) with a high of around 50 deg. But, it was supposed to start raining late Friday night and turn into snow, then the high for Sat. was only going to be around 34 deg. I know for some guys up north, that's probably t-shirt weather :lol: but for us southern boys, that's just too dang cold!! Especially for me. I'm turning into a bit of a wuss when it comes to cold weather. :embarrassed: So, I pulled the engine while the weather was tolerable.

Almost out!
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Finally out!!
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Looks like I have a lot of degreasing to do. :floored:
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TH350 in all it's grimy glory.
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I'm not so sure if I'm gonna stay with the TH350 now, though. It was built in 2001 and has served me well and has no issues, but it has started leaking alot in the past couple weeks of just sitting. I'm sure it could use all new seals and gaskets, a filter change, and an overall checkup. All of this is gonna run me about $200. I'm also going to have to change to some kind of stall converter, which will be about another +/-$200. That's going to be about $400 in this trans. and I can get a 700R4 built for about $900. I figure I might as well just spend the extra money on the 700R4 and be done with it.

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:flag: Hey Matt, you didn't say anything about selling that nasty,grimy, leaking transmission. But if you were to think about it I'll give you $150. for it as pictured with the kick down cable. I'll put a postal money order in the mail as soon as I know where to send it if interested. :exit:

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:punk: Now its time to get the LS in there :)

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Ron, I'll let you know for sure what I'll do. I haven't mentioned selling it because I'm still trying to decide for sure on what to do. You will be the first I contact about selling it, though.

Matt, I'm still waiting on a few parts to arrive, then all the test fitting begins. I'm gonna mount the engine onto 6-cyl towers to get better weight distribution by setting the engine more rearward. I'm gonna have to move the trans crossmember back too, but the x-pipe in my new exhaust tucks up just behind the stock trans mount, which drops below the frame about 1". I'm gonna have to get a new trans crossmember that stays flush with the frame rails. I'll probably get one from ECE.

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Matt, I could be wrong, but I think you need an adapter for the TH350 or the 700r4 to fit the LS. If I've missed something about what you're doing, I apologize.

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Matt, What do you know what the weight diff. is ?


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Bryan, yes I need an adapter kit to mate to an older trans., well actually I already have it. :lol: It's a spacer ring, bolts and flexplate. I bought a used setup from LS1tech.com

Hezie, do you mean the weight difference between the old iron sbc and the all aluminum LS1? If so, I'm not sure of the actual weight difference, but I know when I went to pick up the engine, I watched two guys pick it up and set it in the back of the truck. :exit:

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Some more parts in!

Here's the adapter kit to mate the engine to an older trans.
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coil packs
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windage tray and pickup tube
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rear cover

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I wanna say that there is 60ish lbs of difference between a traditional gen I cast iron small block and an all aluminum LS series engine...


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Well that means the front end is gonna need to be lowered!!!!! :floored: :gi:


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see ten wrote:
I wanna say that there is 60ish lbs of difference between a traditional gen I cast iron small block and an all aluminum LS series engine...


I'd think it's more difference than that, but I've not researched it.

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Well that means the front end is gonna need to be lowered!!!!! :floored: :gi:


I plan to get new 2" front drop springs when I order my new trans crossmember. :punk:

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sweet cant wait to see every thing coming together and going back in

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Looking foward to see'n it.Already received my Shades registration back.


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Looking forward to this as well....making it even slicker ;)

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A little progress.

Coil relocation brackets made.
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Made a valley cover out of 1/4" aluminum sheet and painted. I made this because the factory LS1 valley cover has 2 large holes for knock sensors. I also used button head bolts for a cleaner look.
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Oil pan painted Cast Coat Aluminum. Front Cover painted a cast iron color. Hard to tell the difference in these pics.
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sweet looking good so far

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Nice!

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Got a few more parts.

Wonder what's in the big box?
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New trans crossmember! My old one was going to rub the x-pipe, so I needed one that sat level or just above frame rail height.
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2010 Camaro SS manifolds. I got a decent deal on these. I figure if they're good for 430 HP LS3s, they'll be fine on my LS1. Plus, I didn't have to buy $500 headers. They came with heat shields, but I'll leave them off. I may knock down the mounting tabs and smoth these off when I know for a fact they will work.
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Got some stock 5.3 valve covers. Here they are cleaned up and the coil pack mounting tabs removed.
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Filled the holes with JB Weld. I plan to just paint these and run them for now. I may get some dressier VCs later.
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Test fitting stuff. here's the motor mounts and adapter plates.
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Manifolds held on with a couple bolts.
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And here's the stock frame stands just bolted to the mounts. I have about 1/4" clearance on the drivers side, but they rub on the pass. side.
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So, I ordered these to take of that problem.
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Not pictured yet is the starter I received last week. I've bought a used custom COMP Cam and a truck accessory drive system from private sellers on LS1Tech.com. They should be on their way. I'm going to order my intake, fuel pump, and aluminum radiator today. Hopefully they will be in by the end of the week!

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I know you built brackets to relocate the coil packs... and are thinking about different valve covers. But have you seen the coil pack covers that Holley sells that look like a set of Big Block valve covers?


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Yeah, but I don't really care for them, and $161 for 2 pieces of plastic is just hard to fathom. :lol:

It's not so much the money issue since I may pay ~$250 for a set of valve covers. I just think those covers look kinda cheesy.

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lookin good so far ... two thumbs up

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Progress!! I was getting some floor work done on our house, so I took a vacation day yesterday. I don't really like bugging people or getting in their way when they're working, so I worked in the garage.

I pushed the truck out so I had more room. I cleaned and prepped the block deck surface. Then, I cleaned, prepped, and masked the block and heads for paint, primered and painted them.

With etching primer.............
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.............and, with fresh paint.
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I also got in some more new parts.

ECE 2" drop springs
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New aluminum radiator.
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Figured I better test fit the radiator. It fits!!
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Wow, I wish my truck was Half that clean! Looks fantastic.


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:flag: Hes got the cleanest pickup that I have ever laid eyes on. Of course we have several clean rides whose owners hang out here. :exit:

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Got my intake in and painted. I also cut off that goofy looking mounting tab on the front runner tube.
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Do you guys like the Gray/aluminum two-tone, or all aluminum color?
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My camshaft also came in. It's slightly used, but It's a custom COMP grind. 232/240 dur. @.050 .580/.580 lift 110+2

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My POL tubular engine towers also finally arrived.
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I've recieved a few other parts not pictured.
-Carter electric fuel pump
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-oil pressure and water temp sender adapter fittings and an oil level sensor plug from Speedway

I'm hoping to decide on new valve covers today and order them, and go pick up all the gaskets I need today.

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looking great... I like the look of the valve covers being the same color as the block bettier. But thats just me lol

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I like the two tone.


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The big brown truck showed up again today!!

I was going to try to do something with the stock valve covers, but I just wasn't "feeling it" with them. So, I decided to bite the bullet and get these.
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I'm certainly Feeling it, now! :punk:
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Also got some plug wires and boots.
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Got to deliver fuel somehow!
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Test fit! This is a 570 Street Avenger that I had on my old 350. I have a feeling it may be a bit wheezy on this LS1, but I'm going to stick with it, at least until the initial tuning and first drives are done, then I may upgrade.
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I also went and picked up all the gaskets I'll be needing.
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Got my water pump, dampener and PS pulley(not shown) painted. I'm in the process of cleaning the truck alt./PS pump bracket. I may see if I can do some custom bracket fab, though to get a cleaner look. I'll make that final decision soon.
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BTW, I'm having a 700R4 transmission built with a 2800 stall converter. I'll probably be switching out the 3.07 gears to 4.10 gears.

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sweet .... making some nice progress , I like the new valve covers... they set it off just right

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Got her set in, even if for only and hour or so. :lol: I was checking for all clearances. The truck oil pan hangs about 1 1/4 - 1 1/2" below the crossmember. I'm going to do some checking around, but I may switch to an F-body pan.

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Post Re: Project: LS1ick68
:flag: Let the good times roll. :exit:

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Sat Mar 17, 2012 10:48 pm
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Post Re: Project: LS1ick68
My brother used a pan from an 08 hummer. It gave him plenty of clearance... not sure how it compares to the f-body though.


Sun Mar 18, 2012 7:29 am
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Looks real good.

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Sun Mar 18, 2012 10:48 am
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Location: Sevierville, TN
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Post Re: Project: LS1ick68
A little progress.

I found an F-body oil pan. The fit is much better. It actually clears about 3/4"-1" above the crossmember compared to the truck pan hanging below almost 1 1/2". No worries about scraping the oil pan now.

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clearance shots
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Also got my wire looms started.
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All I have to do now is drill the holes to line up with the plugs, install these end caps I had custom made from stainless, paint them up, then feed the wires through.
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Now that I have the pan issue straightened out, I'm gonna call a GM tech to come over one evening or weekend(whatever works for him) to have the engine buttoned up. I could do it myself, but I don't have the proper tools

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Mon Mar 26, 2012 7:31 am
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:punk: :phatyo: :cogratulations:

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Fri Mar 30, 2012 11:23 am
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Post Re: Project: LS1ick68
Well, with my son's baseball schedule, mine and my wife's work schedules, revival at church, and other things happening, it's been a slow past couple weeks for progress on the truck.

I did finally get around to making(but not completing) the coil pack bracket setup. I decided to mount them behind the intake using the two rearmost holes in the valley cover.

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View with the carb and breather.
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I also finally got the holes drilled and the end caps put into my wire looms.
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I went ahead and fed the wires through for a test fit. Looks like I may need to send them back and get 45 deg boots. I'll double check when I get my headers in to make sure they will work.
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Mon Apr 02, 2012 8:32 am
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Post Re: Project: LS1ick68
That is looking AWESOME!!! LOVE IT!!!!

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Mon Apr 02, 2012 11:07 am
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Location: Chattanooga, TN
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Post Re: Project: LS1ick68
Love the wire looms, very aeronautical! (its very common to run ignition wires through conduit on older aircraft) I've always liked the clean tidy look, I might borrow that idea for my rebuild.

The LS looks great, almost makes me wish I went that route, but I've never built an SBC and what kind of engine guy has never built an SBC before? lol Looking forward to seeing more


Mon Apr 02, 2012 12:05 pm
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