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Hey Guys. I need to start thinking about my powerplant options. I want to stay old school, so no 5.3 swaps for me.

Option 1: The truck had a recently rebuilt (supposedly) 305 in it when I got it. It ran horrible. Tracked it down to being either a bad lifter or head trouble. Actually, it looked like it needs valve work either way. It's got a nice Edelbrock intake and holley carb. Not really sure I want to spend my money on a 305 though.

Option 2: Find a decent running 250 that isn't in need of a rebuild that I could just drop in. Don't know how hard this would be to do.

Option 3: I like to be different, so I don't really want a 350 (unless the price is too ridiculous to pass up). I wouldn't mind having something different like a 327. Again, finding one that is in running condition and not needing a rebuild for a decent price may be tough.

Option 4: Big block. Not really considering this one too much for a couple of reasons. 1. Cost. 2. I don't want a 454. It would have to be a 396 or something like that.

So, what do you think guys? My preference would be either the 250 or a V8 (other than the 305 or 350) but again I don't know how hard that is going to be to find. Am I crazy? I might end up with something totally different if the price is right.


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How about a little 283 with some 305 HO heads on it.

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In reality no one knows the difference between any of the V8's unless you tell them but a 350 will be the cheapest because of the amount of blocks available and the good parts off the 305 will bolt right up...

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I say the straight six or a big block caddy


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How about a little 283 with some 305 HO heads on it.


My first 67 had a 283 in it. Nice little revver.

Ron bought a 250 from me. Not sure if he still has plans for it, but it came out of my best friends running driving 69. He swapped in a 383. It sat covered for a few years, so may need a carb rebuild.

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DP - I'm intrigued. Tell me more.

I saw a complete running 283 on Craigslist the other day. Looked like a good deal. Couple of questions about them.

1) How likely is it to find one in good running condition and what's a good price for one?
2) Will my current intake and carb bolt up to it and be a good fit?


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Well you said you wanted something old school and you cant get more old school than a 283. The old draggers would take a 327 block and put a 283 crank in it and make it a 302. Screaming little motor- Right Ron? I just have always like them personally and from what I have heard the 305 HO heads really peps them up. Both the 283 and the 305 HO heads can be gotten pretty reasonable too. You intake and carb would drop right in there as well. I am no engine builder by any meams, but I do like something different and I think my next truck will have that combo in it. JMO.

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I posted this question up on the big board as well and got a lot of the "just put a cheap 350 in it."

Right now I'm wondering if I just need to work on the 305 to save funds until later when I can save up and build what I really want. I want to have the money to do the body work when I get there. Anyone know a good machine shop in the Nashville area that can look at my heads? Not sure what all I need done to them. Suggestions?

I'm also planning to run a 5-speed. I've heard good things about an AX15 out of a jeep. It takes a pricey conversion kit ($275 or so) but it's supposed to be somewhat stronger than the NV3500 and not as heavy and bulky as the NV4500. Looking for one of those right now as well. I've made a lot of progress over the last couple of weeks, but I feel it grinding to a snail's pace with all of this stuff.


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I have a nice set of heads that you could have cheap.

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Intrigued again. What do you want for them?

Also, there's a guy on the big board in AL that's got a running 6 cyl. (thinks it's a 292 but isn't sure) with supposedly only 75k on it. What's it worth?


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I'll take $50 for them.

I would think a several hundred for the 292.

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Do they need anything at all, or can I just bolt them on and go? Sorry for all the q's.


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Bolt it 'em on!!!!!

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Also, there's a guy on the big board in AL that's got a running 6 cyl. (thinks it's a 292 but isn't sure) with supposedly only 75k on it. What's it worth?


I always wanted a truck with a 292 in it :punk:

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I always wanted a truck with a 292 in it


Me, too. Guess I'll see if it really is a 292 and go from there.


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Car Craft did an article in the mid 90's about a guy
who put a Truck 292 in a 67-69 Camaro. He used 3
side draft 2bbl carbs and it ran 10's in the quarter!

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I know some guys that used to work in a machine shop and they would take a 292 and bore it .125 over (seems the blocks for big trucks had thicker walls) stuff a big cam in it and they would really haul. The 292 is also a taller block so the potential for stroking one is there, wouldn't be suprised for 350+ cubes. Talk about a torque monster.

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WOW! :shock:


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Are there ways to quickly identify a 292 vs a 250?

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292's are alot taller then 250's.

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Easiest way is look at the side covers, 194-250 are about 4 inches wide, 292 are almost 6.

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400 SMALL BLOCK CHEVY PARTS

http://nashville.craigslist.org/pts/2022127542.html

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I sold a 283 several years ago, carb to pan, for $50 because
nobody wanted them. Man I wish I had that motor back. :banghead:

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I have enough stuff to put a 283 together but it would require a complete build. How about a 3.8 Buick Turbo motor? That would be different. And No, it's not a GN.

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The only reason I don't want to do a full build is the cost. I would actually love to go through the process and learn all about it and have a fresh motor that I knew inside and out.

The guy with the 292 is supposed to email me some pics soon. We'll see how that goes.


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Ok. Turns out the 292 was a 250 so that's out. Back to either putting a set of heads on the 305, building something, or taking a chance on a "running" something off craigslist. Not really a fan of #3 unless it's someone I know and trust.


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Heck, you can have the heads off my 307 once I take them off. Nothing wrong with them.

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viewtopic.php?f=7&t=3164 :mrgreen:

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Yeah, I saw that. Sounds like it needs some work. At this point I've decided to see what's wrong with the 305 I've already got. I think it's going to be my cheapest option. Maybe later down the road I can save up for something more interesting.


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Pulled the intake on the 305 to get to the bad lifter. Turns out my cam is shot. So, at minimum this motor needs a cam and set of lifters. One good thing is that it looked VERY clean in there.


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Saw this last week and saved it. You might pick up the package for $200 or less without the heads.
http://nashville.craigslist.org/pts/2019525240.html

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I've got a new SBC cam- just a step above stock. I have $40 in it- you can have for that plus shipping if you wish.

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Sounds like a good deal to me. Do you know all the specs on it?


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I know you guys are sick of me and this motor thing, but I'm currently down to two options.

1) Fix the 305. Hopefully only a couple hundred bucks.

2) Found a 250, running when pulled in May, in KY for $300.

What would you do?


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I'd spend the $$ on the 305

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I agree, freshen it up and it will be fine. I can help if you need any. Maybe David can tell you the difference between 305 heads and 350 heads.

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305 heads have smaller combustion chambers than a 350. 350's will work but will drop the comp ratio at least a full point. Putting 305's on a 350 will up the ratio and make it peppier and maybe help mpg's a little but due to valve size it will limit rpms.

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bw4sale wrote:
Sounds like a good deal to me. Do you know all the specs on it?


I will get them for you.

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Bryan, I'll welcome the help when I get ready to do it. Maybe in a week or two whenever I can gather the parts together. I'm off on Fridays and Saturdays so it'll most likely be one or the other (maybe both).


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Holla at me too. I need a free lesson. :lol:

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Awesome. We'll just make it a mini board meet. Anyone else wanna come? :punk:


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Im always up for learning, would like to meet some of yall and see yalls trucks in person. Maybe get some cool ideas.

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I'm going to be ordering the cam kit this week. I'm going to need a few other things as well. I want to replace the chrome timing chain cover and alternator bracket with stock ones that I can paint. Same goes for the valve covers, but I'm not sure what I'm going back with on those yet. I want to do something custom, just not chrome. May put up a WTB in the sale section for some of this. Let me know what you have.


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OH MY GOODNESS!!! I feel like an idiot. Completely and totally. Sorry guys.

When I bought this truck the guy told me it had a 305 and it came with an extra 305 short block that was recently rebuilt but full of sand because the guys idiot son had done some sand blasting right next to it. So, I promptly sold the extra one cause I didn't want to fool with it.

Fastforward to now. I realize the other day that I don't recall actually running the numbers on this block. I know I did on the one I sold, but judging from the amount of gunk back there, I never ran this block's codes. Here what I thought I found: 3970810. But I can't find a 3970810. However, I did find a 3970010 and it comes back as 68-79 350&327 2&4 Bolt mains/truck/hi-perf. So, how do I tell what I've got?That 5th number is pretty hard to read. I also couldn't find any numbers on the heads (may not have looked the right place).

Sorry again. I feel like an idiot.

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010 is a High Nickel Block and a good one to have :punk:

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My luck would have been it was supposed to be a 350 and end up being the 305. The casting # on the head should be just above the springs or between a set of springs.
If you haven't already ordered your cam kit you might want to upgrade the cam since it's a 350.

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I haven't ordered it yet and yes I want to upgrade. :punk: I want to make dead sure what it is first and see what kind of heads it has before I order. So, you think it's pretty positively a 350? I didn't see any casting numbers in the 305 that were even similar to that. It's hard to tell it in the picture, but that 5th number is almost unreadable.


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The only other casting number I could find that ended in 10 was a 62-63 283 and the first part was completely different. I'm 99.9999999 percent sure you've got a 350 or at least a 4" bore block which could also be a 327 or remote possibility a 302.

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